2. You said it's "the most innovative bait to hit the market in 20 years." Why do you say that?
> "I haven't found a technique that this bait hasn't worked on. I've used 10-15 different techniques and caught fish on every single one of them.
> "It's a different profile. The best way I can explain it is it's like a swimbait and a flutter spoon had a baby.... I've actually used it like a flutter spoon and caught bass doing that.
> "...you can use it as a bottom bait or as a spoon-type bait. Someone else brought up a good point yesterday – they can't wait to try it on a Scrounger head. That's something else I've been meaning to try and just haven't got around to doing it.
> "Also you could probably rig it up on a swimbait head and keel-weight the bait and use it as a swimbait. I haven't tried that yet....
> "There's so many ways you can utilize it. There's really never been anything like it come out – the profile of this bait and the ways you can use it.
> "And I'm not the only one that thinks that. I knew it was going to be a big deal when I first sat in on that [6th Sense] meeting and I saw it there, but I didn't realize it was gonna be this big a deal until I actually got out and started using it. The first 3 days I had 6 double digits on it...."
3. So it wasn't developed by you at all?
> "It was not developed by me. I saw a sample on a table...it was kind of just an idea and I...said, 'Guys if you can get me a 7-inch and a 10-inch this is gonna be my #1 bait. I don't know what their plan was with it. I immediately saw the potential of this bait....
> "If you're not holding it and looking at it, it kind of resembles a swimbait. But [guys will] use it mainly as a bottom bait...you can even use it like a Senko – weightless...twitch it around.... Honestly there's going to be people using it so many different ways they're going to figure more out than I have. I've only been using it 10 months."
4. Do you have a favorite way to fish it?
> "The 5-inch I throw on a normal dropshot, a lot of times on a spinning rod. The 7-inch I use on a power shot with a 4/0 hook TX-rigged. I run it weedless and drag it through those salt cedars.
> "The 9 I weight-peg a bullet weight, normally 1/2-oz, and I'm using an 11/0 hook, just a gigantic hook, and I'm and TX-rigging it. I'm targeting these certain fish, and when I see a fish I want, I'm popping it and fluttering it just like a spoon. If you pop it with slack in your line, that things is erratic...it's pretty much a slow-sinking spoon at that point.
> "I accidentally discovered that. I was throwing swimbaits and everything under the sun at these fish – it was a guide trip that was not going well – and at the end of the day my client said, 'Let's try that 9-inch prototype.' I rigged it up, and the first time I ever used it as a spoon...the very first 9-lber I threw at just attacked it immediately. The next fish I caught was a 5-lber...on a 9-inch bait. That's kind of when I ran with that flutter spoon technique.
> "There's probably a better way to rig it than pegging a weight."
Why the 11/0 hook:
> "That's a big bait so I wanted to get the largest hook I could find. One time I was rigging it with two 7/0s in one bait...you rig it sideways [TX style] and the bait is super thin [so getting the hook in the fish is no problem]."
5. Has this bait replaced any other baits or techniques for you?
> "Kind of yeah just because so I've been so focused in on using it, but no I would still use what I was using. I've been testing this bait out pretty much all year so that's been the bait of choice.
> "I haven't hardly thrown the swim-jig at all. I haven't really thrown the big worm at all. I've just been throwing that and letting it sink all the way to the bottom...schools of fish and they are picking it up off the bottom."