3. What does it take to win AOY and win tournaments now?
> "I think to win AOY – it's always been this way – you have to be a versatile angler. You also have to make good decisions in your worst events. I think that's something not talked about enough – at least shooting par at the events where you might not find the winning fish or the top 10 area or top 10 fish.
> "So you have to cut down your losses, if you will, and get as many points as you possibly can.
> "This year...Eufaula the water came up 4'. I was catching them offshore on rock points and brush and stuff, the water came up 4' and the fish changed up and went to the bank. Day 1 think I was at the bottom [of the standings] and day 2 I scrapped everything I had and [fished shallow techniques] to make the top 20 cut.
> "Those are the tournaments that make you or break you. Even at the St Lawrence – over 60% of my fish were largemouths and I caught them flipping.
> "You just need to adapt and change at the drop of the hat...minimize your losses and be sure to adjust on the fly and not let any event get you."
Foller-up: A lot of guys fall in love with a pattern or doubt their instincts – how do you avoid those things?
> "It's taken a while to understand and trust myself. There's a lot that goes into that that you don't see. Decisions made on the water...I've been fishing over a decade now, and I've made tons of bad and good decisions – learning from your mistakes is part of it.
> "...when you have a gut feeling, when something pops into your mind, it happens for a reason. You're processing information as you're fishing [so] it's almost like a green light: You're sitting at a stoplight, it goes green and you just go. You don't second-guess it.
> "That's something I've learned from the mistakes I've made. I think the biggest thing is to learn from your own mistakes. It's hard to learn from other people's mistakes.
> "But I still struggle with that. There are some times I don't have something in my back pocket and I have to make something out of nothing. Those the toughest moments of your career. The most lost you can be is to be clueless and not have a bite...so you need to fall back to your strength and biggest confidence technique.
> "...in those moments you are tested. You don't really get to see that when you're on the water and watching guys fish, but it's happening every day and in every tournament – and you need to fight off those demons...and try to get that confidence back. Just a couple bites can make that happen."
4. If you're designing your own baits and winning tournaments and AOYs with them, what's left? Shouldn't you move on to solving major world problems? 😁
> "I don't think I should be the one solving major world problems [laughs]. I think I'm gonna draw the line that I help develop boats and baits and products I know all about. I'm working on a new line of clothing with Magellan, let's do that. But I'm not going to go too crazy. I wouldn't even know where to start."
5. It seems like FFS is less of a black box now and people are catching up faster. Are the bass catching on yet?
> "Oh 100%. The bass are getting more accustomed to it.
> "What's interesting is...bass a lot of times travel in groups, and it'll be like a duck or a goose leads a flock or a lead goose...the same thing sorta happens with the bass. One bass leads a group of fish to where they need to go, and they follow it.
> "This year was the first year where I'd pan over there with ActiveTarget and the lead fish would feel it and head toward the bottom, and take all the rest of them with it. The first time I have seen that was this season.
> "...look at events like the Elite tournament on Champlain. Smallmouth with FFS dominated last year, but this year largemouth are starting to play more. We're starting to see things equal out more.
> "This is the start of it. The fish that were offshore and were never messed with are starting to feel that pressure – and other groups of fish that set up conventionally [on shallower structure], it makes them more apt to bite than those out there in the middle of the lake.
> "It makes it very difficult as a professional angler to figure out what's the best option. You only have 2.5 days of practice to find out what's the best way to figure out those fish.
> "I do think [FFS is] changing – a lot of anglers are very good with it. We're just seeing the start of that now where things are starting to reset."
Bonus Q 1: If you had to nominate Dustin, Adrian or Mark for President of the United States, who would it be?
> "Dang. That's a toughie. I'm just gonna go ahead and nominate Dustin – because even if he made some bad decisions, you know you're gonna laugh out of it at least. You're always gonna be entertained by DC. He always has something to say, it doesn't matter what happens."
Bonus Q 2: We've seen 9 CrushCity baits now – what's your favorite or the sleeper?
> "I think the Bronco Bug is the sleeper of the 9 because it has really unique action and it gets bites when a lot of other flipping baits won't. I caught 60% of the bass I caught at the St Lawrence River on it – it just got more bites. It has a unique action. It imitates a crawfish and bluegill really, really well.
> "What's really cool about [this AOY win] is that 80% of the bass I weighed this season were on a CrushCity plastic. It's one thing winning a single tournament on it like with the Freeloader or Mooch Minnow...or having a buddy win Redcrest utilizing the plastics. But it's even that much more of an accomplishment to win the year-long title of AOY and have 80% of the bass I weighed in the entirety of the season on those baits.
> "...the whole [Rapala] team did a phenomenal job. I'm not taking the credit for it. Without [he named them all] it wouldn't be half as good as what it is. ...what we've done in a single year is insane."
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